Kember

brian c · Post by **brian c** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:20 am

Isnt it funny that now that Kember has been released by the coalition forces how brave our wonderful armed forces are

Makes a change for all the slagging theve had by certain elements of the press and the appeasers.

Keefbeer · Post by **Keefbeer** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:09 pm

Could not agree more and while we are on the subject as Kember ignored all advice on his personel security as well as being anti-military I persume he will be picking up the bill for his stupidity!

GeoNeil · Post by **GeoNeil** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:52 pm

They went over there to see if they could do their bit for the Iraqi people.

Then they got captured by some nutters who either...

{a} saw evil Western infidel pig-dogs who shouldn't be in their country, the very same ones who want Sunnis and Shias at each other's throats.

{b} saw the chance to get a lot of money out of Western governments,

Hopefully they'll realise that it's no longer worth their while (and I'll let you guess who I mean by 'they')

Delilahcat · Post by **Delilahcat** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:57 pm

I have heard that Norman Kember did not want any military intervention to rescue him. It was also posted on another board that he didn't thank his rescuers. Don't know how true that is but it seems very bad form if he didn't.
He and other 'peace activists' should have stayed away and this is the opinion of somebody who opposed the military intervention.

sless · Post by **sless** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:00 pm

they should have let him rot in hell
its a war not a picnic
send him the bill

GeoNeil · Post by **GeoNeil** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:32 pm

sless wrote:they should have let him rot in hell
its a war not a picnic
send him the bill

And let another British citizen get killed?

THe Americans blowing up a military hospital to save a Prisoner of War when they were chasing Saddam out of Iraq was excessive and unnecessary. A gang of numbskulls capturing aid workers is different andf I hope his rescuers shot his captors to hell.

Kember may have been a peace activist back home, but he was there what he could do for normal Iraqi people (who aren't the enemy) he was misguided, but he doesn't deserve to be beheaded for that.

Also, if he was one of those forming a human shield around Iraqi armouments during the war, then we need him back over here to face charges of treason, Milosevic keeling over in The Hague pleased no-one, least of all the Serbs.

sless · Post by **sless** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:22 pm

kember got told not to go
so he should have took notice
he should have thought about his grandchildren
ar se wipe what he is

you have your view i have mine

mr-angry · Post by **mr-angry** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:38 pm

Im with sless on this one .
The bloke think's he's a crusader' I love nothing better when these
nosey parker's come a cropper.

off to the new crown now to see Jelly

GeoNeil · Post by **GeoNeil** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:07 pm

He stood up for his beliefs, although he took said stand way too far by bleating about violence being used to save him, he was in the custody of violent people and others in his situation, who were in Iraq for the same purpose, have ended up dead.

My feelings, he should be grateful to have got out of that situation alive, regardless of whether or not he approved of the method used to get him out that situation and yes, it was right for the Army to have been sent in to save him.

As for whether or not he should have been in there in the first place... well it was unwise for him to be in Iraq (as it was unwise for Ken Bigley and Margaret Hassan to be in Iraq) he knew the risks he was taking and he can't complain about that, I wouldn't have gone over there, no chance.

Delilahcat · Post by **Delilahcat** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:27 pm

I think Margaret Hassan and Kenneth Bigley should not be compared. Mrs Hassan was married to an Iraqi and had lived in the country for more than thirty years.
Kenneth Bigley worked for a security company and presumably knew the risks. That said neither of them deserved to d*e.

mr-angry · Post by **mr-angry** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:52 pm

personally i hope hes dead thaT WILL TEACH HIM NOSEY BUT MUNCH
YES IM p*ssed

sless · Post by **sless** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:39 am

ive just been for a few pints with a soldier just back from iraq
he is fuming about this kember bloke
the amount of things they did to save him
and he is too far up his own ar se to appreciate
being rescued
fu ck him

brian c · Post by **brian c** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:45 am

I'd rather not if you don't mind

allan · Post by **allan** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:53 pm

Personnally I am on no one's side about these people that know the dangers' going into a foreign country. There are do gooders and do gooders, some go in for their own glory, some go in to really try and help others. The question I would like to ask is' How far does our government go to help these captives? Who decides to go in or not. I would like to give a small instance, a couple of weeks ago a couple of blokes, and I mean blokes well in there 30s climed over the fence at Roker pier to go fishing. to cut the story short, they got stranded and could'nt get back past the waves lashing against the pier. The coastgaurd was phoned and after a short rescue they were brought safely back to land. My point is' these men scaled a fence that was keeping them safe from any danger
so who decides that others should risk their lives to rescue these men.>>>>

sless · Post by **sless** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:11 pm

hm coastguard
i heard they got escorted off through the escape tunnel
the same night a bloke i know was fishing but came off when the tide was rising

allan · Post by **allan** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:50 pm

Thats exactly right; the weather was so rough they decided on the tunnel
instead of the boat, or the copter. Anyway thats a small story, what I was saying, is there is someone who decides what is to be done and how it is done and where it is to be done. Can these people pick and choose who to rescue and who not to. I don't know.>>>>>>

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