delia for PRIME SINISTER .PART TWO

Leave your remarks about life in South Shields / South Tyneside

Moderator: andysfootball

User avatar
mr-angry
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 9409
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:39 pm
Location: king of the rocks

Post by mr-angry »

The swatstika has been used for thousands of years, by loads of races
Just like Baldy said.
South Shields, I was born here, and I'll d*e here
User avatar
Jim_in_France
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 3469
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:02 pm
Location: France
Contact:

Post by Jim_in_France »

Jarrow Pete wrote:
Nikki Big Nose wrote:
As for MrA's new signature. I can't see how he could be reprimanded for it if it is a legal party.

....and so was this sherri.....

unoffensive :?: :?: :?:

Image
What has a nazi flag got to do with a BNP rosette?

The same difference with Labour and "New Labour". I.E. Nazi Party....New Nazi Party! Same people with a different flag.
"The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast."

"We are each our own devil, and we make this world our hell."

Oscar Wilde
User avatar
sherri
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 25239
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:14 am
Location: Melbourne Australia
Contact:

Post by sherri »

Maybe you need to re read my post.
Nowhere did I say the symbol might not be offensive to some people.
I said-I don't think mr A could reasonably be banned from this messageboard etc for having it.
Now quite possibly if I knew more about the BNP I might find some of their party politics offensive too. But if it is a legal party, then people are legally allowed to follow it.

I think you will find that the nazi swastika was not illegal in Germany in the 1930's. It may have been offensive to different groups of people, even hated, but in Germany of the 1930's it was quite legal.

In fact it is quite legal in Australia, 2007. I am not saying it is popular. But the nazi party is quite legal here. At one stage many years ago there was a push to ban it but in the end it was thought democracy should allow it.

I believe in Germany the nazi party is now illegal, so using the swastika to push that party on messageboards there would presumably be illegal and would result in a boardie having that signature banned.

The question to me is not what you or anyone else finds offensive, so much as is it legal, does it go against the rules of the messageboard?

Probably about half the time i totally disagree with different posts and the views expressed but that doesn't necessarily mean the people should not be allowed to express them. they are different questions. What is legal, what is offensive, what limits can people go to on a board etc
User avatar
sherri
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 25239
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:14 am
Location: Melbourne Australia
Contact:

Post by sherri »

As an example, if someone here had the swastika as a signature denoting they were in the nazi party, that could be okay on a message board. It would be a hated symbol for a lot of boardies and they would not agree with the politics, but..
if the person with the swastika made posts outlining how much they hated eg jews and wanted to kill jews and started trying to incite violence, then that would be a breach of messagebaord rules, as I would see it.
So i see the posts and the signature as 2 different things I guess, and the signature, while it is only a badge of a legal party, and no comment, may not be popular but is not illegal, surely.
Last edited by sherri on Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
jarrajock
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 606
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:48 pm
Location: land of the haggis

Post by jarrajock »

no matter what yo do where yougo to someone isalways going to find something offensive wether it be a sign haircut or the colour of your eyes
Jarrow Pete
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 8001
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:07 pm
Location: Jarrow

Post by Jarrow Pete »

Jim_in_France wrote:



The same difference with Labour and "New Labour". I.E. Nazi Party....New Nazi Party! Same people with a different flag.
Jim you have more in common with the nazi party with your hatred of the Jews,maybe you should include it in your posts.
Babooshka

Post by Babooshka »

I remember when Prince Harry wore a swastika on his army outfit to a Fancy Dress party and there was absolute ruckshuns on about it

Image
User avatar
sherri
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 25239
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:14 am
Location: Melbourne Australia
Contact:

Post by sherri »

My own suspicion about the whole thing with the signature is I think MrA is trying to get a reaction from people and is succeeding. He is a bit of a stirrer.
User avatar
sherri
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 25239
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:14 am
Location: Melbourne Australia
Contact:

Post by sherri »

Yes of course babooshka. that is because he is part of a royal family that was supposed to have been against the nazis (though we know only some were). They are still not supposed to support the Nazi party. People find it offensive he did that, though of course it was not illegal. Not a good move mind you, if you aim to please the people, but not illegal. Just silly.

It would be a bit like our Liberal prime minister going out wearing a Labor party badge on his lapel. It would cause a riot in the newsrooms.
little_tata
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 1631
Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:10 pm
Location: the cupboard under the stairs

Post by little_tata »

why should the bigots be allowed to
run my life by telling me what's right and what's wrong.


Because you have the intelligence of an over cooked sprout.
User avatar
curly
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 15702
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:53 am
Location: Not 230 John Williamson Street any more!
Contact:

Post by curly »

I have not deleted any threads they are still in place (but locked) my apologies are still there, the outing was about to occur so I acted in what I believed was good faith to take the wind out of the sails of what could turn out to be particularly nasty business. My only regret is that I did not inform Delilahcat in advance of taking my action. I have since had more than one exchange of PM's with her to explain the matter. (Better an irritating spot than a full grown boil, I thought!)

viewtopic.php?t=11085

viewtopic.php?t=11078

I don't get sufficient time to visit all of these boards and was wary of the subject causing heated and unnecessary debate on my board, and to protect Delilahcat further, I locked the threads.

It really is time to think about allowing her to get on with her campaign without this nuisance getting in the way.

I hope people will begin to understand (a) my reasons for acting as I did, and (b) my regrets at not accomplishing the task more professionally by including Delilahcat's wishes.
Jarrow Pete
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 8001
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:07 pm
Location: Jarrow

Post by Jarrow Pete »

Well said Curly, like you say its time to put it to bed and move on.
jimmywizz
Full Time Gobber
Full Time Gobber
Posts: 12501
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:26 pm

Post by jimmywizz »

yep spot on curly this post has now runs its course and let the cat get on with her new job POST LOCKED
Locked