Working on the river or at sea

Axeman · Post by **Axeman** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:59 am

A question for some of you, could be a relevant question for Pilot.

My son't just left school and not sure what to do next, he's got a feeling to try the Merchant Navy.

But he's also seen this company on the river and was thinking about giving them a ring.

http://ospreyltd.com

Any guiders for a young lad, from you guys with experience ?

Pilot · Post by **Pilot** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:21 pm

I'm a bit out of date Axeman, but if he is thinking of a career at sea it would depend on his school leaving qualifications. The opportunities at sea are not what they used to be due to cheap labour from the far east and eastern Europe. If he is looking for a placement as a Deck or Engine Room cadet a good place to make enquiries may be The marine school at Westoe, I'm sure someone there would be able to give good, up to date advice and they have open days.

Pilot · Post by **Pilot** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:24 pm

Enquiries to the Port of Tyne Authority at Maritime House, Tyne Dock, may be the best place to start if looking for Marine related work on the river. I'm not sure if the take on apprentices these days but may be able to steer you in the right direction. Good luck.

Axeman · Post by **Axeman** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:24 pm

Thanks for that Pilot.

Yeah, he's already been looking and the Marine and Tech and applied for something online ?

I'll have to check out the open days that will be handy.

andysfootball · Post by **andysfootball** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:44 pm

look at the royal navy website

pass the exams for officer

do no more than ten years

keep skilled up during that time for civilian transition

encourage travel

Axeman · Post by **Axeman** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:17 pm

Cheers Andysfootball

His two older step brothers were both in Navy for short time.

First one passed at Raleigh training school with full honours gaining the Owen Cup for best student. Had great future ahead of him......left after meeting girl back home, left navy and now drives a taxi.

The next one joined doing communications as a submariner. Left after short time becasue he thought he could use his new skills on land. Spent a year doing odd jobs and has just getting a job taking emergency calls for the NHS.

Talk about two lost causes.

Trying to guide my son, but the old Kevin and Perry syndrome.......of course as his dad I know nowt.

Globalmyths · Post by **Globalmyths** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:45 pm

Admitedly it would be a lot harder today. In 1939-40 my eldest brother bought the passport of a British Merchant Sailor who had deserted. And put his photo in it. He was employed as a stoker. Was torpedoed by a Uboat was saved then was on ships going through the Suez Canal until the end of the war and he went all round the world depending on what type of ship and cargo it was carrying.

PS I have an out of date Kiwi passport for sale if you are feeling lucky. Or my deceased wifes Australian passport for sale.

mr-angry · Post by **mr-angry** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:08 pm

Working on the river

Tony Blair made sure no one would work on the river again.

Do any of the Socialist leeches "beg to differ"?

Globalmyths · Post by **Globalmyths** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:31 pm

I could pretend to be one for you MrA. But the only problem is that the last time I begged my friend said to me after I had sneezed when I said beg your pardon. He replied don't beg you are old enough to steal.

Holderite · Post by **Holderite** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:04 am

Hi everyone.

Long time lurker.... first time poster.

There are still loads of opportunities for british youngsters to have a rewarding career at sea.
Luckily for us, we have one of the best maritime colleges in the world on our doorstep.
The son of my neighbour has just signed up with Clyde Marine Training to start an ETOs course at South Tyneside College in September.
I know Shell Tankers and Maersk are actively recruiting for both deck and engineering cadets.

Yes, it is true that seafaring is more internationalised than ever before but there are still loads of opportunities with good prospects of travel, lots af time off and a decent salary.

Jim_in_France · Post by **Jim_in_France** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:06 pm

mr-angry wrote:Working on the river Tony Blair made sure no one would work on the river again.
Do any of the Socialist leeches "beg to differ"?

Yes, I do!

Socialists try to keep jobs by subsidies (coal minning, shipbuilding etc). Capitalists go where they get cheap labour to increase profits at the cost of jobs. You support those who steal your jobs. A typicaly english illness in recent years!

Axeman · Post by **Axeman** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:33 pm

Holderite wrote:Hi everyone.

Long time lurker.... first time poster.

There are still loads of opportunities for british youngsters to have a rewarding career at sea.
Luckily for us, we have one of the best maritime colleges in the world on our doorstep.
The son of my neighbour has just signed up with Clyde Marine Training to start an ETOs course at South Tyneside College in September.
I know Shell Tankers and Maersk are actively recruiting for both deck and engineering cadets.

Yes, it is true that seafaring is more internationalised than ever before but there are still loads of opportunities with good prospects of travel, lots af time off and a decent salary.

Hi and Welcome Holderite

Yeah my son filled in an application online of Friday for Ship Safe Training Group.

Application came next day !

Globalmyths · Post by **Globalmyths** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:22 pm

Now you just holderite there and don't you move, smile right your photos in your avatar and you can send the payment of fifty Euros for the negative to Curly.

Right have a gday and welcome.

Holderite · Post by **Holderite** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:35 am

Thanks for the warm welcome...

Axeman, SSTG are good trainers but I would advise to shop around. It's definately a "buyers market"

Axeman · Post by **Axeman** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:49 am

You must be in the know Holderite, so excuse me for drawing off your knowledge.

It's the first company he's come across.....do you have any preference or know of any better routes to go down ?

jimmywizz · Post by **jimmywizz** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:30 pm

welcome to the boards Holderite

champion. · Post by **champion.** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:03 pm

Hello Holderite, welcome to the cukoo's nest........

Ugly Betty · Post by **Ugly Betty** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:25 pm

Welcome to the boards, Holderite.

Axeman, I'm not sure if your son would be interested but many
of the tall ship operators hire on and train young folks on their
sailing voyages. I googgled it and got loads of hits.

Whatever he ends up doing, I wish him the best of luck.

mr-angry · Post by **mr-angry** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:28 pm

Jim_in_France wrote:
mr-angry wrote:Working on the river Tony Blair made sure no one would work on the river again.
Do any of the Socialist leeches "beg to differ"?
Yes, I do!

Socialists try to keep jobs by subsidies (coal minning, shipbuilding etc). Capitalists go where they get cheap labour to increase profits at the cost of jobs. You support those who steal your jobs. A typicaly english illness in recent years!

Nice try Jim, but I'm not falling for that "old chestnut".
Still I never got where i am today by working on the river.

Holderite · Post by **Holderite** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:27 am

Axeman wrote:You must be in the know Holderite, so excuse me for drawing off your knowledge.

It's the first company he's come across.....do you have any preference or know of any better routes to go down ?

You guessed correctly... am in the know somewhat. I arrived in South Shields from the Midlands 15 odd years ago to do my training at the college.

When I qualified, they threw the wife in for free!!!

I know from speaking to friends involved in the HR side of the business that Shell & Maersk are actively recruiting.
SSTG & Clyde Marine Training aren't actual shipping companys themselves but they work by providing training for the shipping companies.
Personally, I'd shop around as there seems to be more spaces available than there are applicants at the moment. Seems that not many people want to be paid to study to HND level with prospects of of worldwide travel and a starting salary on qualification of £20K+

I'd be looking for a company that could give a bit of variety in their training.
I.E. If you were training with Shell you'd get to train on a tanker, followed by a tanker, followed by ...... another tanker..etc
[although Shell are a good company to train with/work for!]

I trained with Clyde Marine and did my time on 2 Ro-Ro cargo ships, a Cruise ship, VLCC (Supertanker), 2 smaller tankers and 2 passenger ferries.

Obviously, you've missed the deadline for the September entry but there will be another cadet entry in January.

Good luck.

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