and we wonder why....

[CJ]

the kids of today are what they are.

Four women who forced two toddlers to fight and filmed the brawl are to have their "lenient" sentences reviewed.

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The group - who goaded one child with cries of "faggot" and "wimp" - received suspended prison terms and community service.

Now, following calls from Tory MP Mike Penning, the Attorney General, Lord Goldsmith, is to request the Crown Prosecution Service papers into the case.

He then has 23 days to decide if it should be sent to the Court of Appeal for re-sentencing.

Zara Care, 21, the children's mother, her sisters Serenza, 29, and Danielle Olver, 19, and her mother Carole Olver, 48, forced the two toddlers to punch each other in the face.

Mr Penning said he was "appalled at the leniency of their sentences".

The judge said he found the film "shocking to watch".

They were seen goading the two-year-old boy and three-year-old girl to hit each other with a magazine and a hairbrush and when one did not fight they called him a "wimp" and a "faggot".

The fight was filmed on a home video recorder and was found by chance by the children's father, who is in the Army and had returned from a tour of duty in Iraq.

Prosecutor David Gittins told the court that the father described the footage to police as being "like a dog fight" and that it had reduced him to tears.

All four, from North Prospect, Plymouth, Devon, pleaded guilty to child cruelty charges and were each sentenced to 12 months in prison, suspended for two years.

They also were each ordered to carry out 100 hours of community service and banned from working with children.

How b l o o d y sad is that?

[Jake]

Did you see the state of those "women" what sort of bloke could have a relationship them, made me sick looking at them,

Everything alright, marrasis

[Pilot]

Maybe he had, had 20 pints Jake

[Ugly Betty]

It's horribly sad, CJ. Adult role models wonder why the kids act as they do???

[Globalmyths]

Something like that leaves you shocked and with a nasty taste in your mouth.

Its a pity we can't bring back an old aspect of custodial sentencing by the courts. Where the judge would not ever consider adding that the sentence was to be suspended but instead adding the words "With hard Labour".

[CJ]

Read a lot of bad things in books, in the papers, seen a lot of bad things on the news,on the net, the world is full of it, as we all know. I really didn't think there was much left of peoples inhumanity to each other, to be shocked by. Wrong!!!!

[Axeman]

You're right there CJ.

Seen some really bad stuff on the internet, death in particular seems to be 'good fun' for some.

We haven't changed much in the last 1000 yrs have we ?

[bluekats]

Did you see the state of those "women" what sort of bloke could have a relationship them, made me sick looking at them,

Everything alright, marrasis

CJ, I was reading this story in the international express or gazette, I think it was, over in a little town not far from my place here while having a bowel of soup yesterday… I tell you, it really put me off my lunch reading that, I felt sick… and like Jake says, they looked like big bad hard asses…

the kids were crying and didn’t want to hit each other but they forced them to go on… I tell you, they need their faces slapped to the other sides of their heads…

and they were laughing at the kids while making them fight like pit bulls?

I wonder what sort of an upbringing you’d have to have to do something like this… I'm glad she lost full custody of the kids!!

[Jim_in_France]

I would bet they were "Chavs". AKA. VERMIN! Gas the b*stards!

[loadedpistols]

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY THESE BITCHES WERENT JAILED.?
THE KIDS ARE IN CARE SO WHY DID THEY NOT GET JAILED.
HOPEFULY SOMEONE WILL KICK THE s**t OF THEM SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT.

[CJ]

the jails are full.

[loadedpistols]

another home office fukkup
build more houses to house immagrants but cant build nee more jails

[Rosie]

That has to be one of the saddest things I have ever read. Anyone who could do something like this shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children, either their own or anyone elses.

[Jim_in_France]

No, they were not sent to prison as they are....."Mothers" and the children need them? Courts dont like to send mothers to prison. But in this case, I think they are stretching it too far!

[northern]

No dought others beloved BNP party
would send round the vigilantees to
kick the shyte out of them mothers
who egged there kids on.

Like thats the answere ( NOT ). But
it do appear they want to go back to
the wild west and form a posse to tackle
the situation.

A hideous crime it was i agree but until
the laws of the land are changed we in
England are governed by them.

[Jarrow Pete]

A hideous crime it was i agree but until
the laws of the land are changed we in
England are governed by them.

Why don't you come and live in the real world. The sentence that these animals received will not act as a deterrent to stop others harming innocent children, but I guarantee that a bloody good hiding from indignant members of the public will. As has been said many times the only thing bullies fear is pain, it has been proved again that the law is an ass.
By the way you do not have to be a member of the BNP to be a vigilante, you just need a bit of a backbone.

[brian c]

Pete I agree whole heartedly with your sentiments but please dont call them animals as animals do not behave in such a disgusting manner.

[Jim_in_France]

To be nice to them, its a case of imbeciles bringing up a generation of even more imbecilic people. I know the government are doing some sort of courses for idiot parents, but they need to do more! Watching several real life shows of late, I see drivers doing insane things like reversing up motorways, councils having to force people to look after their overun gardens, parents with kids like porkers, people dropping litter in the street next to litter bins. The world is full of morons! Why dont they bring back home economics in school, compulsory for boys and girls. Lessons on how to be a decent human? Instead of shyte like algebra! Something Ive never had cause to use! Make it compulsory for parents to attend parents evening at school. Bring back Dog licences, linked to a compulsory micro chip for dogs 'including greyhounds) so we know who is dumping dogs. Require parents to pass a test and get a licence to breed. People with council houses who do not look after their gardens, put them in a high rise flat, even if they do have kids.

[northern]

A hideous crime it was i agree but until
the laws of the land are changed we in
England are governed by them.

Why don't you come and live in the real world. The sentence that these animals received will not act as a deterrent to stop others harming innocent children, but I guarantee that a bloody good hiding from indignant members of the public will. As has been said many times the only thing bullies fear is pain, it has been proved again that the law is an ass.
By the way you do not have to be a member of the BNP to be a vigilante, you just need a bit of a backbone.

The real world, i Can assure you i know the
real world alright so shut your political clap trap up.

So ones all for sending the vigilantees in to beat up
people or God forbid even possibly kill them upon such
attacks. Are the vigilantees going to ......................
be above the law then given a lincence to kill or mame
people, that stinks to the highest of degree. Not only
that but by the law of England they must be tried and
sent down for attempted murder, but silly me i forgot they
will have a licence to possibly kill or mame.

A bloody good hiding ha ha whats that the law in ones
mind meet violence with violence who needs to get into
the real world now. who gives anybody the right to kill
mame or in others cases to give anybody a good hiding
would appear someone is for it but i can see further than
me nose unlike some. why the people who do these crimes
might even tool them selfs up beacause they know that the
licence to kill brigade will be after them. Then no dought the posse
from ha ha Dodge City will stand around scratching there parts
and wondering how some of there group got shot or Knifed .

Well lets just hope it does not happen and justice will prevail
for the good of all mankind. heaven forbid that the vigilante
group get the wrong person or target the wrong house . why
it could even be someones who endorse such things . PMSL.

That would be in the real world then and guess who would
be the first to complain. Thats assuming one is not killed in
such actions. Some people realy make me laugh with all there
big talk of getting Wyatt earp and his posse of men out.
Me thinks someone has been reading too many cowboy books.

Well its nice and heart warming to know that some people when
and if they get into power they are going to give others a lincence to
kill mame and be above the laws,Then again one could always get a
posse of men after the guilty ones of the said posse who possibly
kill and mame others.

But untill the laws of the land change we must walk a vigilant way
because who who knows there might be a posse of men around
the corner and heavens forbid if one looks like the intended target of the said posse. could be a Mother/Father/Son/ Daughter of anybodys who
elected the said posse of men. Violence with violence need backbone.
No just common sence requied to change the laws.

[smb]

the kids HAVE been placed in to care so jail the w*ores.then let some rampant s*x starved seventeen stone lesbian bug*er them to death with a twelve foot barbed wired dildo.
seriously though they jail no one here except pensioners who cant afford the poll tax. it stinks.