University Degrees

[ralph]

I have long wondered about the clamour by the young to demand as a right, a University Education. I have encountered many people in my life whose Degrees seem to have had very little to do with the career paths they followed. "Ah yes," the will proclaim, but they show that we had the intelligence and dedication to get one."


On TV in London this morning was an item about a man standing outside an Underground Station, holding a placard to tell prospective employers that he was available for work - and he has been offered a job. The Placard said: "Libyan Refugee who has just obtained his Degree in Rocket Science, looking for work in Finance. They did not tell us in what field he had been offered a job, but if it is finance, it illustrates the point I first made.

I wish him well in his new job, but I cannot help but wonder about how sensible it is to take in refugees from a country torn by revolution and civil war and train them in rocket science?

[andysfootball]

canny money to be made in rocket science

[allan]

I used to make rockets in my early days, didn't take long to learn and it was passed down to the next generation no bother at all. You could buy them in Woollies if you had threepence but we made them with nuts and bolts with a cap set inside' done the same as a rocket but the better the cap the louder the bang.....

[whip]

I used to make rockets in my early days, didn't take long to learn and it was passed down to the next generation no bother at all. You could buy them in Woollies if you had threepence but we made them with nuts and bolts with a cap set inside' done the same as a rocket but the better the cap the louder the bang.....

i bet you wet you'r knicker's when that happened lad.

[gnads]

Got to agree with you Ralph.

Too many useless courses offered at Universities these days.

However I do believe that everyone is entitled to a free education to University level if they wish and have the application.
Not everyone should being going to Uni .... the entry level requirements should be more stringent.

That said I also believe that students without adequate academic standards should have the option
of leaving school at grade 10 level to take on apprenticeships etc.... that is if there are any... without
having to go to grade 12.

A move that was made to hide/reduce unemployment figures by keeping kids at school for a few more years.

I also believe that there are too many agenda driven lecturers/ Professors at University indoctrinating students with PC BS
& cultural marxist dogma.

[ralph]

Got to agree with you Ralph.

Too many useless courses offered at Universities these days.

However I do believe that everyone is entitled to a free education to University level if they wish and have the application.
Not everyone should being going to Uni .... the entry level requirements should be more stringent.

That said I also believe that students without adequate academic standards should have the option
of leaving school at grade 10 level to take on apprenticeships etc.... that is if there are any... without
having to go to grade 12.

A move that was made to hide/reduce unemployment figures by keeping kids at school for a few more years.

I also believe that there are too many agenda driven lecturers/ Professors at University indoctrinating students with PC BS
& cultural marxist dogma.

Gnads, it is an odd thing(I speak only about the UK) but it seems the majority of University students embrace radical left-wing politics when young and many when old are still singing from the same song book, but you just have to look at many of our Labour Party politicians to find their lifestyles are strangely at odds with with their supposed beliefs. They are to be found living in the most expensive areas of London and the only times when they are to be found with the working class, is when the are looking for re-election.

In the last ten years of my working life, most of the people I worked with either had degrees or or were striving to get them. With many, they developed a thinly veiled 'education-snobbery', and treated the opinions of those without a University education as being irrelevant, while often appearing stomach-churningly sychophantic towards those who had a PHD - regardless of the subject. That is not to disparage a University education, for they have also produced some truly brilliant people.

[champion.]

canny money to be made in rocket science

I should know

[allan]

Whip' when I was a lad girls wore the knickers: but hey I ain't calling you for what You wore' I can imagine some people sharing their sisters knickers or maybe you were a disappointment and were bought knickers as there are a lot of Feminate blokes about, I just wasn't one of them if you were...

[whip]

Whip' when I was a lad girls wore the knickers: but hey I ain't calling you for what You wore' I can imagine some people sharing their sisters knickers or maybe you were a disappointment and were bought knickers as there are a lot of Feminate blokes about, I just wasn't one of them if you were...

Stupid boy so you are.

[andysfootball]

were they pink or apricot whip?

[allan]

I don' know whip....you just make out your a bit feminist, maybe they were navy blue knickers.......or just maybe you help them out when they busy

[whip]

Time's was hard in Ballymena so they was.

I had to wear old potato sack's round my nether regions.

Me Ma stiched '' Property of H M prison on them'' Stopped them from being nickedf of the line.

When they was mislaid once i never needed viagra that winter.

[jeff]

I came to Uni education as a mature student, having followed a Building Trade apprenticeship and then qualified the "hard way" (evening classes and Correspondence Courses) as a Building Surveyor.

The opportunity of some formal management training came when my employer sent me (aged 46) on a Management Diploma Course for two years (part -time again) and at the end of this my grades were considered good enough for entry to the second year of an MBA course. I graduated at the age of 53 and was working as a Section Leader at the time of the last Local Government Reorganisation - but then came the blow - no longer required- probably too qualified and also at some odds with my line manager!

It must have cost my employer many hundreds of pounds for those two courses.
Whilst they resulted in no further progress up the ladder for me, I believe that the experience and exposure to new ideas has undoubtedly brought benefits for me in a number of ways. Their loss was certainly my gain.

[ralph]

I came to Uni education as a mature student, having followed a Building Trade apprenticeship and then qualified the "hard way" (evening classes and Correspondence Courses) as a Building Surveyor.

The opportunity of some formal management training came when my employer sent me (aged 46) on a Management Diploma Course for two years (part -time again) and at the end of this my grades were considered good enough for entry to the second year of an MBA course. I graduated at the age of 53 and was working as a Section Leader at the time of the last Local Government Reorganisation - but then came the blow - no longer required- probably too qualified and also at some odds with my line manager!

It must have cost my employer many hundreds of pounds for those two courses.
Whilst they resulted in no further progress up the ladder for me, I believe that the experience and exposure to new ideas has undoubtedly brought benefits for me in a number of ways. Their loss was certainly my gain.

Glad to hear you took it so well Jeff aand good on you for having a go so late on in your working life.

[memor]

Rocket science !!! It's not Brain Surgery is it.

[memor]

Not sure I've mentioned this before but since tuition fees went up, UK University Libraries are now OPEN 24 hours.

Also

Student Union Bars profits have dropped by 25%

Apparently the Students that now go to Universities actually want to learn...

Strange that isn't it

[andysfootball]

bloody disgrace

and nowt like a good protest!

[memor]

Yes you don't get "rent a crowd" full of students like you used to........