BTW,If asked,I do say I’m technically a racist,just incase you were wondering,think i’ll say a “cultureist “ from now on ,it doesn’t sound as offensive

Moderator: andysfootball
CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD Australians? This is certainly 'food-for-thought'.
This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish. And send it on to everyone.
Maybe this is why our Australian Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.
Can a good Muslim be a good Australian?
This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia .
Religiously - no... . .. Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam ... (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)
Scripturally - no. . . Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically - no . Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews .....
Politically - no... . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders),
who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , (the great Satan) , Australia and the rest of the free world.
Domestically - no. ... . Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife
when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34 )
Intellectually - no. .. Because he cannot accept the Australian Constitution since it is based on Biblical
principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion
and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no... . . Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind,
while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation.... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS
in this country. - - - They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Australians. Call it what you
wish it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our
country and our future.
The religious war is bigger than we know or understand. ......
Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within. SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
I agree,however certain people like to twist things around when they can by playing the race card…sherri wrote:Preferring a particular way of life isn't racist IMO. We all have our preferences in food, fashion, leisure etc
Ralph IMHO Islam is not merely a religion .... It encompasses every aspect of life ... Home, work, politics etc. and cultural differences within it vary from country to country. It's oppressive & regressive & allows things that we think unlawful & heinous. It's volatile, intolerant & without compassion or love.ralph wrote:Race is usually defined by those with shared genetic characteristics such as the colour of skin and eyes, shape of nose and lips etc, whereas the thing that most often causes friction in populations is ethnicity, which may well include some of the aforementioned things, but also cultural differences. It's those cultural differences that most often get the pot on the boil and Gnads has just outlined a few.
Probably the most divisive difference is religion, and always has been. I suppose in most religions, most of the followers these days, regard their 'holy books' as a collection of explanations written down a very long time ago by people seeking to understand existence and all of its mysteries. Usually thrown in is a set of rules for society to live by and to justify and maintain the power of those who had it. Most people fortunately take a sensible and moderate view of it all.
Having said 'most' there are still huge numbers of people who don't and fanatics of any religion are still prepared to slaughter people in their countless thousands and do it in the name of God. Almost as bad are those people who want to pretend that just about everyone is good and, they are often the first people to hurl the word racist at anyone who takes a different view from their own.
NEVER MORE SENSIBLE WORDS SPOKEN!!!Tweedlady wrote:Recently, over 200 girls were abducted by a muslim group, to be sold. That's a massive number. There has been minimal publicity really. Much less than for the plane that went missing. And you rarely hear the muslim part of it mentioned. Where is the outrage? Where is the demand for muslims to do anything about some of their extremists? What if this were reversed? What if some Christian extremists had stormed into a school and taken over 200 muslim women and openly claimed they would be handed round to Christian men and forced to become Christians.Do you think there would be any reaction?There is a woman over in Nigeria, I think it is, who is facing hanging. She is 8 months pregnant. Her crime? She became a Christian and married a Christian man. Any outrage from our usual sources here, the ones who would be super critical of any least insult to migrants here? No, not a whisper.Apparently, if other groups overseas are extreme or violent, that's perfectly okay, we can't make a comment because that might be racist?
The only thing Australia has that you have not got is some autonomy over our immigration system. You lot are in the EU and apparently can't change some things even if you wanted to. Mind you, if I were a politician, I would be pushing for change in the EU rules and pushing very hard. England is becoming known as the welfare state for Europe. That thought has been expressed more and more often in newspapers here lately.Delilahcat wrote:Fair comment Sherri. I am usually called PC and do gooder but I think there is nothing wrong with valid criticism. I was thinking of you Aussies during a debate on immigration on another board. Someone said we should be like Australlia and only let people with skills that we need come into the Country. Always seems to me that is a rose tinted view and Australia does have some problems with immigration and assimilating different cultures. Not being critical just saying that some people here think Australia has got it right.
Ralph, we have exactly the same thing happening here, that second generation can be more extreme than their parents. I blame our system for some of this, too. We have encouraged people to hold dual nationality. Assimilation is now a dirty word.ralph wrote:Sherri says: "If we allow extremists to live here, to preach here and to have their own sharia law, then bit by bit we will be importing trouble." Very true of course, but it would seem so often these days, it isn't always the first of the immigrants who are extreme, sometimes it is their children, who perhaps are trying to find their roots and identity that become converts to extremism.
In Britain, our TV news reports are heavily censored so that we are not upset by the 'real world'. We are warned if there is going to be flash photography in case it provokes an epileptic fit, and if someone is having a wound dressed, the announcer's brow will crease with worry and warn us 'that some people might find it upsetting.'
To watch the horrors takes a very strong stomach as it shows helpless people being beaten, humiliated and then murdered with the most horrific brutality, accompanied to shrieks of' 'God being great.
Ah yes, but that happens in their own countries, not ours, except perhaps for the young soldier Lee Rigby.
It's not racist as such, it is fact that humans have got ahead by sharing knowledge.Globalmyths wrote:Would I be considered racist if I said the truth: I believe that the aborigine of Australia, the Maori of New Zealand
and many of the African nations would still be the way they were, if the Europeans had not found them and given
them the technology they have today.