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the falkland islands.

Post by siam sam » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:01 pm

has anyone worked or visited there, i have.
zip me up in my oilskins and jumper.
no more down the docks i'll be seen.
just tell me old shipmates.
i'm taking a trip mates.
and i'll see them on fiddler' green.

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Post by ralph » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:41 am

siam sam wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:01 pm
has anyone worked or visited there, i have.
I never got the chance to visit the Falklands, but I have vivid memories during the Falklands War, of gathering with workmates each day around the TV to watch the news - and very depressing it was at times. One of the Captains from Port Line (my old company) Captain North, was killed in action on 'Atlantic Conveyor', while the son of one of my work colleagues went on to become Deputy Governor of the Falklands for a while. The closest I came to the horror it must have been: One day while standing in Victoria Station, the heroic Simon Weston CBE, who suffered such awul burns during the conflict passed by, a reminder that wars carry with them, a terrible price.

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Post by siam sam » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:41 pm

i saw a few of the troops who got injured on board a ship taking them back to the uk after an accident when working to rearm an air craft when some thing went wrong and a missile got discharged and caused injuries to personnel.
zip me up in my oilskins and jumper.
no more down the docks i'll be seen.
just tell me old shipmates.
i'm taking a trip mates.
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Post by whip » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:47 pm

We should have given them back to Argentina year's ago so we should.

Gib to Spain also.

England's domination is absolutely worth less now.
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Post by andysfootball » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:01 pm

got quite close to land when I was swimming after HMS Coventry got sunk a short while before the Atlantic Conveyor
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Post by ralph » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:43 am

whip wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:47 pm
We should have given them back to Argentina year's ago so we should.

Gib to Spain also.

England's domination is absolutely worth less now.
We acquired our Colonies when attitudes were very different and we were no different from the other major powers in those times. The problem is: our smaller colonies and territories are usually inhabited by people who like the arrangements they have and don't want to be 'handed back'. The other is: Spain who constantly demands Gibraltar back, shows no signs of wanting to vacate its colonies on the North African Coast, nor the others it still retains around the world. A good many of the people in Argentina laying claim to the Falklands, have names and a language that denotes them as the descendants of the Spanish colonists who violently took possession of the land from the indigenous natives. Sorry Whip, your view is just that - a view - but too simplistic by half.

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Post by whip » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:50 pm

ralph wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:43 am
whip wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:47 pm
We should have given them back to Argentina year's ago so we should.

Gib to Spain also.

England's domination is absolutely worth less now.
We acquired our Colonies when attitudes were very different and we were no different from the other major powers in those times. The problem is: our smaller colonies and territories are usually inhabited by people who like the arrangements they have and don't want to be 'handed back'. The other is: Spain who constantly demands Gibraltar back, shows no signs of wanting to vacate its colonies on the North African Coast, nor the others it still retains around the world. A good many of the people in Argentina laying claim to the Falklands, have names and a language that denotes them as the descendants of the Spanish colonists who violently took possession of the land from the indigenous natives. Sorry Whip, your view is just that - a view - but too simplistic by half.

Simplistic or not.

No war's, no dead people, no heartache's etc etc.

Just give them back the land we once grabbed by being damn greedy.

Money wasted which could have been put to better use so it could.

Living in the past never achieved anything.
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Post by ralph » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:10 pm

whip wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:50 pm
ralph wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:43 am
whip wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:47 pm
We should have given them back to Argentina year's ago so we should.

Gib to Spain also.

England's domination is absolutely worth less now.
We acquired our Colonies when attitudes were very different and we were no different from the other major powers in those times. The problem is: our smaller colonies and territories are usually inhabited by people who like the arrangements they have and don't want to be 'handed back'. The other is: Spain who constantly demands Gibraltar back, shows no signs of wanting to vacate its colonies on the North African Coast, nor the others it still retains around the world. A good many of the people in Argentina laying claim to the Falklands, have names and a language that denotes them as the descendants of the Spanish colonists who violently took possession of the land from the indigenous natives. Sorry Whip, your view is just that - a view - but too simplistic by half.

Simplistic or not.

No war's, no dead people, no heartache's etc etc.

Just give them back the land we once grabbed by being damn greedy.

Money wasted which could have been put to better use so it could.

Living in the past never achieved anything.
You have told us that you used to be in the Army? I take it you must have been dragged in by National Service, for I certainly cannot imagine that you went in of your own free will. :D

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Post by whip » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:49 pm

i enlisted for the Forces.

Saw a bit of skirmish and realised what weapon's can do.

Grew to dislike war's and weapon's.

For sure I used them, as I was trained to do so.

I can boast that no one got killed or injured whilst any weapon's was in my hand's :D
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Post by ralph » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:37 pm

whip wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:49 pm
i enlisted for the Forces.

Saw a bit of skirmish and realised what weapon's can do.

Grew to dislike war's and weapon's.

For sure I used them, as I was trained to do so.

I can boast that no one got killed or injured whilst any weapon's was in my hand's :D
Well one thing is for sure, the Services are not for eveyone. I'm sure that our men and women are as good as any in the world and they have to go where sent and follow orders, but it is inevitable that many must have had grave doubts about some of the operations in which they took part. The families of those that lost their lives, for example in the second war with Iraq, the legitimacy of which is now widely questioned, must at times feel very bitter.

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Post by memor » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:53 am

Whip if the residents of the Falkland Islands wished to become part of Argentina Britain wouldn't step in their way... They don't and didn't wish to be invaded. Same as Gibraltar. They wish to remain part of Britain. Isn't this what democracy is all about.
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Post by andysfootball » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:04 am

whip wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:49 pm
i enlisted for the Forces.

Saw a bit of skirmish and realised what weapon's can do.

Grew to dislike war's and weapon's.

For sure I used them, as I was trained to do so.

I can boast that no one got killed or injured whilst any weapon's was in my hand's :D
did they make you paint your white van green?
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Post by whip » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:23 am

memor wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:53 am
Whip if the residents of the Falkland Islands wished to become part of Argentina Britain wouldn't step in their way... They don't and didn't wish to be invaded. Same as Gibraltar. They wish to remain part of Britain. Isn't this what democracy is all about.
For sure they wanted to remain.

i do believe rightly or wrongly the Falkland island's belonged to Argentina ?.

There fore ,what right have Britain to claim them as their own.

Same applies for Gibralter.

The brits got booted out of America and left India, say no more.
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Post by whip » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:27 am

andysfootball wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:04 am
whip wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:49 pm
i enlisted for the Forces.

Saw a bit of skirmish and realised what weapon's can do.

Grew to dislike war's and weapon's.

For sure I used them, as I was trained to do so.

I can boast that no one got killed or injured whilst any weapon's was in my hand's :D
did they make you paint your white van green?

Stupid boy so you are.
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Post by memor » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:41 pm

Whip The Falkland Islands. I believe we were ceded them by Spain....... Long before there was a country called Argentina........ We were there first. That's why there are British people on the Falkland Islands.
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Post by ralph » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:51 pm

memor wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:53 am
Whip if the residents of the Falkland Islands wished to become part of Argentina Britain wouldn't step in their way... They don't and didn't wish to be invaded. Same as Gibraltar. They wish to remain part of Britain. Isn't this what democracy is all about.
Quite so Memor. It should be remembered that the Government of Argentina under General Galtieri was not democratic and the people of Argentina subsequently sentenced many of its members to long terms of imprisonment for brutal crimes against humanity.

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