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Its an old topic, but after seeing this news, it only confirmed to me, that the UK are determined to have their database. No matter how they get it!!!


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21012006/325/i ... abase.html

All they need to do, is arrest someone for some phoney offence, take their prints and DNA, then say "oops...sorry, we have the wrong person" and let them go. People said police would not do this. But they HAVE done it! 24,000 times already. :shock:

And thats just the few they admit to. And remember.....thats 24,000 innocent children! Not to mention the undisclosed amount who were given a caution for some pissy little imagined wrong. Not counting innocent adults too! :evil:
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Hopefully your political candidates will have the guts to fight against this, rather than use the stock in trade

"Won't somebody please think of the children"...

or

"The world has changed"....
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I like the old cliché "If you haven't commited a crime then you have nothing to fear".
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rossinisbird wrote:I like the old cliché "If you haven't commited a crime then you have nothing to fear".
Yes rossinisbird. And we can see what sort of bird you are! An Ostritch, with its head in the sand.....Or somewhere else! dark. :wink:
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I agree with Rossinisbird.For example look at the rape cases going back several years that are now being solved due to advances in dna testing.The trouble with this country is that there are too many do-gooders.The victims of crime are the forgotten minority, and if having this data base gets the scum off the streets I am all for it.
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I personally think its disgraceful.

This really is turning into a Police State.
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jarrow pete hit the nail on the head all these so called do gooders
dont give a hoot about the innocent victims probably because they
make a good living out of it ( cherie blair )
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I don't mind if the police have my DNA on record.
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Yes rossinisbird. And we can see what sort of bird you are! An Ostritch, with its head in the sand.....Or somewhere else! dark.

Obviously you missed the irony implied by the word 'cliché'.
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Yes I was surprised that your comment seemed to get taken the wrong way, rossinisbird. I was enjoying seeing all the cliches coming out to air.
They are all very popular here, too, including the bleeding heart and we also have the 'loony left'.

Mind you, dna is a bit like nuclear power. All the govts are eventually going to want samples of it. I have to admit it helps tremendously in crime solving but has anyone seen the movie Gattica I think it was? Interesting.
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Point taken rossinisbird! My appologies.

It really annoys me about this issue. The 24,000 kids were innocent of any crime. And Everyone! is supposed to be innocent untill proven guilty. To have everyone on database is only the start of it. What about when the ID card comes in and later it incorporates a tracking device? Then you have to justify your movements? Or when you forget to take it with you and are arrested until you can prove who you are and where you have been. Far fetched??? You can be detained in France if you have no ID to show. You will be held until you prove who you are. That can take hours! Or even days!!! If the Gendarme wants it to. Not good if your in a rush to get to work. Then have to explain to the boss you have been arrested. Will he believe you? Or think Hmmm. Smoke without fire?
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Smash down the Bastillie, and in the words of Churchill to the SOE - set Europe abalze. (metaphorically speaking of course). Give em a whiff of Ghandishott.

Place the cap of liberty on Chirac's head (or cream pie him).

Did the ID cards stop the riots a few months ago? :P
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What riots?
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Okay... I was wrongly accused of arson a few years back. I proved my innocence but had my DNA taken. So does this mean the filth can use my DNAshould I commit a felony, or that they shouldn't but probably will anyway?

In primary school (or maybe infants i dont actually remember), the police took everybody's fingerprints in the school. I don't actually see this as any different...

To be honest it doesn't bother me. If somebody convicted of a crime from DNA taken by wrong accusation, then they still commited the second crime... if it helps the filth do their job then, actually, I'm all for it.
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little_tata wrote:What riots?
Obviously you are being facetious.
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I think he is referring to the riots on the housing estates in France which happened following the death of a couple of lads being chased by the police.
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Ahhhh.......okay
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you know b4 ya ask
betya all the kids on database are from housing estates !
any politicians or coppers kids wont b on that base
probably mostly blacks
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I would be happy to bet 1 years wages, that they are all from poorer families. They have to keep the poor down, to protect the rich.
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